I don't see what it have to be a global thing, or would it be the UK and the US taking the lead or the global south? I mean, I just don't see who the we would be in that case. The people at the top of these things are generally part of the problem, not part of the solution space at all. But they can't solve or can't address the scale of the challenge that we're facing even within nations. So I see leadership, which is what we lack. I see leadership not as top down, but then I never really have. It is a messy relationship between bottom up and top down. We all have a role to have our

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