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The paradox of American freedom

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

CHAPTER

Vax Conversations

Sebastian: Real freedom is being totally at peace wherever and whenever you are. He talks about the struggles of making a phone before any of the technology supply chain or even the mobile industry itself was remotely ready. Sebastian also discusses his new documentary from the verge called springboard, the secret history of the first real smart phone. We're curious to know what you think, what you want more of and what we could improve. Send us your thoughts at vax conversations at vox dot com.

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