How Do We Persuade Others That Faith Has Equal Epistemological Footing With Empirical Knowledge?

I don't want to be caught in the false either or of scientific knowledge over there versus faith over here. There's much more of a complicated overlap than our modern western world has often allowed for. We have to rattle some cages there and make sure that we really know what it is we're talking about. And so do you think that in a way the second part of this question from Zach is again possibly asking the wrong kind of question?