There are these two fairly universal moments throughout the day when we're able to access it more of a peak focused state. The question that popped into mind is do stakes play a role in this as well? Or and maybe are they just a factor of one or the other? And so here would be the example that I got curious about. If I am outside rock climbing. Okay, so I'm going to be super engaged because I have to be. Now I could also be at home playing hyper vivid realistic video game that has me climbing on that identical peak. Right. So really engaged really challenging cognitively complex not physically, but the actual stakes to me are really low. That's right

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