Beatrice speaks with Dean Spade about how we respond to crises, from climate collapse to covid, and how the state’s primary response to these crises is to try to narrow the possibilities for political action around them. Transcript: https://www.deathpanel.net/transcripts/dean-spade-collapse Read Dean’s piece, “Climate Disaster Is Here—and the State Will Never Save Us” here: https://inthesetimes.com/article/climate-disaster-ecological-crisis-deluge-ministry-markley-robinson-gelderloos Find our book Health Communism here: www.versobooks.com/books/4081-health-communism Find Jules' new book, A Short History of Trans Misogyny, here: https://www.versobooks.com/products/3054-a-short-history-of-trans-misogyny Death Panel merch here (patrons get a discount code): www.deathpanel.net/merch As always, support Death Panel at www.patreon.com/deathpanelpod