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How Did That Change You as a Leader?
I think that the part that, so what changed me as a leader more was the time that was that late before of that, the two years where I wasn't a managing director role. So I really invested a lot of my time to think about how do we make sure everybody's moving into the same direction and know why they're doing the things that they're doing? "That is what changed me more as a leadership person," he said.