The Human Condition Interacts With the Creative Process

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The human condition interacts with the creative process, right? I mean, of course it can go unexpectedly well or unexpectedly badly at any time because we are very strange and complex. And you're so attentive to how memories and emotions and the subconscious are also acting at all times when we're open to this part of ourselves. It's all part of it. We never know where it's coming from. Which is probably why it's helpful to have the right partners and coach. That would be a real benchmark if the AI could play the game of Go as good or better than a grandmaster that be a remarkable shift.

The flow and the ingredients by which an idea becomes an offering — and life practices which call that alchemy forth. The mystery of it all that can only be named and wondered at — and the ordinary mystery that creativity is a human birthright, a way of being rather than doing, that beckons to us all, in everything we do, from crafting something to conversing to the arranging of furniture in a room.

This is where Krista goes with the rock star music producer Rick Rubin. It's not a conversation about the creative process of the many great musicians he's worked with — but a conversation that is for and about us all.

There are some surprises, too, in his lovely, soothing voice — like the way he finds a metaphor for all of life in pro wrestling. And he leaves the doors of his studio wide open as they speak, so there is a soundtrack of ocean waves.

Rick Rubin has been a singular, transformative creative muse for artists across genres and generations — from the Beastie Boys to Johnny Cash, from Public Enemy to the Red Hot Chili Peppers, from Adele to Jay-Z. To name just a few. His new (and first) book is The Creative Act: A Way of Being. He is co-founder of the record label Def Jam Recordings, and former co-president of Columbia Records. He is also one of the hosts of the podcast, Broken Record.

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