The Truth of the Podcast Is the Pandemic Hit

"I just did it because I couldn't do stand up and I was going crazy and I needed an outlet," he says. "My plan was for it to be silly and dumb and funny, but the trajectory of the podcast really is from the callers" The show has become more serious than you might have imagined in its first few years. It's been a real eye-opener on how ego gets involved with every single thing that goes on around us these days,. He adds: "It is truly the hell like on other."