Bob satian talks with tim ryan, chair and or partner at p w c. P w c recently announced a staggering two point four billion dollar plan to create a new digital platform for employee engagement that they believe will radically re define the workplace. In our talk, tim shares what he's hearing and learning, including key lessons about scaling a culture of change,. encouraging debate and the trap of playing it safe. And if your company is interested in exploring how better up can help build mental fitness and develop new leadership skills, we'd love to make a direct introduction for you.