Is There a Space for That?

"I think what people would want to hear from you though also, is, it's a courage problem. What it comes down to with whatever pursuits some one has, is people are so worried about not fitting in and so worried about being rejected," she says. "So that whole idea of selling out in a certain way for me is about that's about the celebrity part."

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