Beng: I was never quite sure how to use my abilities to really do something important and big. So when i saw the opportunity to do this, it felt almost like destiny. It felt like something i was born for. We're reading books about unc printership, reading biographies of people who think outside the box and go do different things.
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Author and Air Force officer Mark Jacobsen joins Joe to discuss failure. Specifically, what it looks like, feels like, and how we can grow from it. Additionally, Mark talks with Joe about innovation and entrepreneurship, grappling with identity in the military, and his new book, Eating Glass: The Inner Journey Through Failure and Renewal.