The cloud first point is actually, know, we've driven it to its logical conclusion. I would say it spins between the advantages of centralization and decentralization as you go through paradimes. And i centralization played a really big advantage in a container based world,. But as we move into a world that’s much more mobile, that's much more global... We're not going to have an a w s executive on to argue their case. So i think wem ready to cut you off at this point.
Ben and James discuss Cloudflare and what it is like going through an IPO, as well as what has gone wrong with WeWork.
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