There's loads of stakeholders in this debate, like you say, across borrowers, sponsors, loan investors and in CLO structures. And clearly the incentives are not aligned. We weren't looking for a windfall. We just wanted to keep a level playing field. Right? So I think that that's very much closed because people have realized that CLOs, which are 60% of the loan market, if CLOs are focused on it, then you'll need them to kind of not object"

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