#46 Vitaliy Katsenelson: Soul in the Game
Investing by the Books
The Difference Between Art and Craft
IMA director says he wants to focus on the art part more in his professional life. "If you have a zero fear of how it's going to look, that means you're not taking any risks" IMA is based in New York but has offices around the world.
Vitaliy Katsenelson is the CEO of Investment Management Associates (IMA), a value investing firm providing individual portfolio management. He is also the author of several books, including “Active Value Investing” and “The Little Book About Sideways Markets.” In this episode, we mostly discuss his latest addition, “Soul in the Game”.
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This episode was recorded on March 16, 2023.
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Episode Chapters
(00:00) Intro by Eddie & Niklas
(01:55) How Vitaliy’s passion for investing started
(03:53) Soul or Skin in the Game
(05:21) A Parallel to Jiro Dreams of Sushi
(07:32) Is it possible to have too much soul in the game?
(12:54) Stoicism, philosophy, and investing
(22:34) Once our art turns into a craft, it is time to move on
(27:47) Vitaliy’s work at IMA
(29:32) How to allocate your time
(32:51) Size as the enemy to great performance
(40:52) To see the long term, you need to survive the short term
(46:52) Good reasons for selling a company
(54:18) Where we are in the market cycle
(01:02:30) Living in the present while planning for the future
(01:06:45) Book discussions
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Books Mentioned
- Active Value Investing - Vitaliy Katsenelson
- The Little Book About Sideways Markets - Vitaliy Katsenelson
- Soul in the Game - Vitaliy Katsenelson
- Skin in the Game - Nassim Nicholas Taleb
- Managing Oneself - Peter Drucker
- Behavioral Investing - James Montier
- The Little Book of Behavioral Investing - James Montier
- The Little Book that Builds Wealth - Pat Dorsey
- How to Think Like a Roman Emperor - Donald Robertson
- Guide to a Good Life - William Irvine
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Companies Mentioned
- Silicon Valley Bank
- Qualcomm
- Meta
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More on Vitaliy
Investment Management Associates (IMA)
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About the Podcast
Intro episode: https://www.redeye.se/podcast/investing-by-the-books/817383/0-intro-to-investing-by-the-books
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Investing by the Books was founded by Henrik Andersson, Bo Börtemark, Mats Larsson and Michael Persson. It has published hundreds of book reviews in the past 10 years and operates on a non-profit basis.
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Disclaimer
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