The Importance of a Positive Vision for Energy and Industry

If we're going to have a 21st century that is successful I think it will somehow look different in a physical material way from the from the 20th century. And my you know my intuition is that we have lots of forests and a few nuclear power plants and then the power the whole on the whole country. We've chopped down all the trees and covered them with solar panels that barely work or something like this but there's sort of a concrete or you know windmills polluting the entire coast just ugly flying the landscape.