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#43 Classic episode - Daniel Ellsberg on the institutional insanity that maintains nuclear doomsday machines

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The Us, the Soviets, the Russians, and the Us.

We knew that they could destroy europe their neighbors, with intermediate range missiles or short range and planes bomers which we couldn't destroy in a first strike because they were mobile. So our threats of nato always involved the total devastation of our allies of nato, and absolutely inescapably. It's not clear to me to this day how conscious the nato allies were of this, nor why they allowed it. I would say that west berlin remained capitalists and remained allied to the west, inside east europe, 250 miles, within east germany, surrounded by soviet divisions. There was no other way of keeping russians from simply walking in and taking it

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