"The meaning crisis and the pulley crisis is complete lack of awareness or conservation," he says. "It does seem like this kind of horrible exponentially worsening hangover of the scientific revolution, which, you know, thank God there was one by the state token,. but plus capitalism and industrialization and how everything just became atomized." 'We have to be able to recover the overwhelmingly positive aspect of no thingness without seeing it as just the lack of reality in nothingness,' David Frum adds.

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