This episode is brought to you by one dream, the former teaching company in great courses. One dream dot com n d r i u m dot com slash shermer has expanded into a subscription service that includes documentary series and films. We're tackling new subjects that are just ever so slightly controversial ind in culture these days. And we'll be talking with Garry marcus, founder of robust, robust dot a i - a machine learning company acquired by ober in 20 16.

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