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In an environment yeah. It's kind of the same thing that happened with me for podcasts and I used to have a podcast with my friend Matt Weiss who worked works with TMZ. And we were interviewing celebrities and stuff and talking about like celebrity stuff he really liked that world. And it was kind of a struggle for me because I didn't know that much about celebrities. But then I went on Joe Rogan's show and I left out of there one day and I was like oh I just need to be I just needs to be myself, you know what I'm sayin? That's when comics really start to find their rhythm right is when they when you get over that hump of like
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