Navigating Immigration Challenges and Overcoming Setbacks

In this episode, Natalie Brunell chats with Katie Ananina aka "Katie the Russian" on X—CMO of CitizenX and founder of Plan B Passport—about why having a “Plan B” passport isn’t just a travel trick but a true safety net when geopolitics shift.

What you’ll learn about:

• Katie’s entrepreneurial roots in Russia after the USSR’s collapse
• How “Plan B Passports” give you a backup plan when borders change
• Why second-citizenship by investment is becoming more popular  
• The basics of "flag theory" and why diversifying your citizenship matters
• Key geopolitical trends to watch before picking a passport
• Broken immigration systems and the rise of microstates
• The future of flexible citizenship models

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