The Nurseries Are What Gets People on the Phone

As conservationists, you talk about everything else other than the animal. Do you think we're almost dealing injustice to the public by seeming that wouldn't be interesting and it wouldn't motivate them? I've found people are far more interested in the nitty gritty. Everybody wants to go and see the animals, right? And I'll take groups down to the South Africa,. whatever, and make sure we go to certain places where we've got good chances to see them. But what they're really interested in, all sorts of stuff.