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When Micah met Carlos

Test Match Special

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Carlos Sha Given

Pundit says he wants to learn from the players when he hangs up his boots. He believes bishop is one commetytat i look up to, as a punditor. Thee e big hit the punditory game was 'too serious', admits Paddy Ashdown. But now it's all about showing respect and adding some context - both of you.

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