Introduction

This week's guest is a wonderful writer and journalist, a former political adviser to labor prime ministers julie gillard and kavenrud mister shon kelly. His book, the game, a portrait of scott morrison, is out through black ink. And it was great to chatter him about this dod that is caraly leading our country, and who will hopefully not win the next election. I am recording this on te lands of the colan nation. Respects to the wandry and bunerung people, to their elders, past, present and emerging. Got some issue with the latest special yo proby? Guess why. You can go to patr