Introduction

We're going to say no to some of the same things, dies and a couple of other things. My question is not so much whether we say no, although probably on some things we need to, but how do we say it? Welcome to the stand firm i casto nic lannon of grace anglican church in laville k here to day with matt kennedy from binghamton, new york. We are also joined by david old who is senior associate minister at saint john's anglican cathedral. David has been writing for sin for yo years.