I'm not sure we can be sure that we booted them out at all. There were in these vulnerable systems and they could be hiding there for as long as they need to. We live in a world where the products that we have are not secure by design or secure by default. It is super hard to prevent bad things from happening. What we need to do is to assume that disruptions will occur and then build the processes and the networks so that we prepare for those disruptions.

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