There's an overwhelming sense of there is this effortless excellence where they're so excellent it's natural right yeah no. There are areas that he's sitting there dead metal surrounded by 40 I mean I think it was the having 30 40 shafts you know hooks that are flanking him and it's welcome welcome welcome to no. He has dedicated his life to speaking the language of of of like the culinary arts and then to sit down is like there’s an overwhelming sense  of there is a great chef out there.

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