In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark is joined by Kathleen deLaski, author of "Who Needs College Anymore?" to explore the ever-evolving landscape of higher education. DeLaski challenges traditional views on college education, delving into how the rise of alternative pathways like apprenticeships and dual enrollment are reshaping post-secondary education. They discuss the implications of the Great Recession, the impact of AI, and the role of experience as the new "silver bullet" in career advancement. Tune in to discover why the four-year degree might not be the only or best option for today's learners and how these changes are influencing the future of work and education.

Outline

• (00:00) Introduction: Who Needs College Anymore?
• (02:34) The Changing Perception of Higher Education
• (04:27) The Great Recession's Impact on College Value
• (07:21) Is College for All Dead?
• (09:25) Who Needs College? Exploring Different Personas
• (14:17) The Rise and Fall of Bootcamps and MOOCs
• (20:45) The Future of Apprenticeships
• (24:03) The Step Ladder Approach to Higher Education
• (28:43) AI and the Future of Higher Education

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• Who Needs College Anymore?
• LinkedIn
• Substack
• Education Design Lab
• deLaski Family Foundation
• Blog on the Northeastern Co-op Model
• Riipen
• Ryan Craig on Apprenticeships
• Reach University