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73. Scale, Mess And Debt

The Sam Ovens Podcast

The Step Backwards Is Better Than the Step Forward

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"I always keep a long list of all of these debts. I've even got one without product that I call detailed debt, right? Which is all of these tiny little details," he said. "You don't need to solve them all now, but you need to keep record of them." The main thing that takes down like software companies is tech debt, he added.

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