i'd meet with people under the auspices hof were not working and i'm still looking for a job. If they know ofa y who would be interested in hiring somebody like me, who can get this inside information. And so that was the the meetings i would have. I wasn't ever comfortable with silence. Like, after a few seconds in the conversationou could feel awkward to a lot of people. But once i got comfortable sitting in silence with people, eventually people would start talking.

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