The Fear of Reality in Our Culture

I think it's easy for people to maybe dismiss that and say oh that's wishful thinking or that sort of thing like you're just telling yourself what you want to believe but I think in coming to the other side and trying to talk to people about this who are in the place that I was the thing that I actually see. That doesn't make it easier to believe in some ways I think it makes it harder I think especially if you're somebody who is in that materialist mindset in this postmodern world. It takes a lot of dissonance built up by evidence to make you ever question anything, he says.