504: Our Octopus Conversation
The Pen Addict
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I've Always Listened to Your Podcasts, but I've Always Listened With Great Interest When You'll Do the Tips Recaps
Ben: The first show was more of a general stationery show, with pen vendors and paper products. He says the most recent one has been much more pen-focused in that it's had vints, pen venders,. yells and very small penmakes that i hadn't even heard about before. Ben: Now we have these new makers in the community that have made their way to this show. Eh, that seems like really, really positive, yes, for sore.
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