I think that one of the things that I view as a challenge currently is you see that we've staked out what I think extreme ends of the spectrum so on the one end of the techno optimism and utopia they're all saying oh boy AGI is right around the corner. If we could try to develop more realistic conversations about the benefits but also the problems look trying to say that this is all going to be great is foolish and that's you're hiding your head in the sand, he says.

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