I'm Going to Do the Next Thing. And I'll Do the Next Thing. And It's Gonna Be a Lot of Fun.

"I wasn't in any real shape for the mountains," he says. "When it's wet, it's a whole different ballgame" He and his partner were planning to do star in Courtney but ended up doing oval peak instead. The experience taught him how not to overestimate your ability or trust someone you're with.

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