The Importance of Awareness in Meditating

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Some people will be practicing with this idea of reducing suffering and it works. But after a while, one realizes there's a way here or ways of relating to myself through meditation that end up kind of neutering me. So some people happily employ the medical model for their whole life and it's enough for them. And so I really want to stress that I wouldn't want to push any model or conception of practice on anyone. We are free in the sense that we can decide for ourselves based on what we're open to, why we're doing anything.

In this conversation with meditation teacher and author Rob Burbea we discuss the role of fantasy in meditation, the purpose of what Rob calls the 'Soulmaking Dharma' and some common traps that can obstruct our connection with beauty on the contemplative path. This was the first conversation I had with Rob (there are two more you can listen to in the Emerge podcast stream). For various reasons I decided not to release it immediately after we recorded it, feeling that the subsequent conversations did a better job of communicating what I wanted to communicate. There were also some nasty recording problems that made it difficult at times for the conversation to be fluid and flowing. In any case this is a lovely coversation and I hope you enjoy! 🙏