I was three, four hours a day in the forest. I could literally go throughout the whole forest. And that was my contact also with birds. It's so cool because they, you're there for the first flight. They're like Steve Austin, the $6 million man on the moon,. But now it's not because it's one day that he goes and he goes, and he starts going up. He starts screaming and that was the sound I used to make.

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