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328: ‘The Warden’s Dilemma’, With Ben Thompson

The Talk Show With John Gruber

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Is That an iPhone?

We are 14 years on from the iphone, right? So it's and and the rouser didn't really explode right away. There wasn't a consensus that the whole internet is moving towards this new device class. It just boggle the mind that these little things we keep in our pockets would actually be bigger than the pc as as the primary consumption devices for the for the entire internet.

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