Despair And Indignation Among The American White Working Class - Arlie Hochschild
The Joe Walker Podcast
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Le Shrugged: A Deep Story
Ali Vatanka: I want to come to this notion of a deep story. But I just wanted to take a step back and kind of pick apart a few aspects of your journey into the deep South first. So that five years you spent there from 2011 to 2016, I assume that wasn't a continuous five years. About 20, 20 trips down to the South. And some of them, I took a nephew with me. I took my son with me twice. I took his husband. These were actually family journeys.
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