Animals have alarm calls that stand for something else. What makes humans human is we can combine those in ways that allow us to represent any anything we can think of. And even if you try and teach like a chimpanzee or a dolphin to potentially put symbols together, they don't do that. It's not because they're bad with symbols. It's because they probably don't have those thoughts to begin with right? Right. Well, that gets us to your new book because we often conflate intelligence and language conceptual abilities and so on as some kind of mark of, well, I don't know what intelligence,. But you know, what you're getting at is in the thesis of

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