A Failure Is Not a Failure Entrepreneur

I remember another one of your episodes on HIV T where you were chatting with butcher box, his first venture. And I remember him sharing that a failed venture is not a failed entrepreneur. What would you be willing to share with us and our listeners about maybe that lesson, that moment and how it's stuck with you? My career today wouldn't have happened without a very significant failure in my career, which was I started out as a reporter for NPR 25 years ago. You know, I had this very successful career as a young guy. But at 25, I was the bureau chief for NPR in Berlin in 2001,. I dreamed of being the main anchor of a weekday news program on NPR but