Lane chats with Dev Agrawal— content creator & Developer Advocate at Clerk! Tune in as they discuss DevRel, authentication vs. authorization, JWT, and so much more in this episode.
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- (00:00) - Introduction
- (00:50) - Is Dev's name really Dev?
- (02:10) - What is it about writing code that scares Dev?
- (02:50) - JavaScript is one of the worst with dependencies
- (03:09) - Dev's ideal world
- (03:20) - .NET and Blazor
- (03:59) - Blazor explained
- (04:36) - WASM on the Front-end
- (05:04) - Is Blazor unique to C# ?
- (06:11) - What is a DevRel?
- (08:07) - Lane's experience
- (09:13) - You shouldn't roll your own Auth
- (11:59) - Undifferentiated work
- (13:56) - Authentication vs Authorization
- (16:19) - Regarding Auth, which is a bigger pain point for companies
- (16:48) - Pain points of Authorization
- (18:38) - Pain Points of Authentication
- (20:23) - Lane's perspective
- (22:29) - Using a third party for authorization
- (24:27) - Is Clerk used for both Authentication and Authorization?
- (26:16) - JWT explained
- (28:39) - Where is the users' data stored?
- (29:27) - Features are developed as needed
- (29:52) - Auth coupling to the rest of the system
- (30:16) - Webhooks listeners to access user session data
- (31:03) - Postgres foreign-data wrapper
- (32:09) - Microservices sharing databases
- (34:29) - CQRS
- (37:37) - Average size of a company that uses Clerk
- (40:50) - What are the most used ways to sign-in
- (42:04) - Stances on passwords
- (46:56) - OAuth
- (50:33) - Why Lane dropped Sign-in with Twitter/X
- (51:14) - What do popular services usually use?
- (52:24) - Sign-in with Google
- (57:39) - Unpopular opinion on Auth related web architecture
- (01:00:17) - 2 ways of doing authentication
- (01:05:59) - Where to find Dev
