In this episode, we explore the significant shifts in German politics with the dramatic rise of the AFD, now the second-largest party in the nation. Despite their electoral success, deeply entrenched bureaucratic maneuvers prevent them from exercising their political mandate. We delve into the players involved, revealing the tactics used to maintain the status quo, and discuss the controversial stances of the AFD. From anti-immigration policies to their pro-Russia stance and internal splits over Israel, we provide a comprehensive overview of this seismic political change in Germany.

Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] Hello Simone! So in this video we are going to be talking about one, how we are seeing a radical change in German politics with the right and the quote unquote far right winning extremely large amounts compared to previous election cycles and we're going to be discussing how the entrenched bureaucrats in German deep state is preventing them from even Being able to vote within their own Congress, despite being the second largest party in the country now.

And the largest party being a conservative party as well, and the conservative party betraying them. Okay. Sort of start with a map here to give you an idea. This first map you're seeing here, you see almost all red right here? Hey, that's the SPD. Okay. So that's like a left leaning party. The gray is one of the conservative parties and the blue, the little blue you see here is the AFD, the one that all the other parties are afraid of.

They, they literally [00:01:00] mark their, their members as domestic terrorists and are constantly surveying them. And we will go over this as well. This is this election cycle. The next one, blue or gray. Just conservative across the board. It's like that Reagan election. Except for one little, like, even Berlin is half gray, with the other part being the littlest holdout of the still red.

Wow. Is that not absolutely insane? And so now you might be hearing all this and be like, Well, I mean, of course the AFD, Must be like extremist, rightist, you know, whatever's right, right. Let me tell you about the person who runs the AFD. I don't even think you know this about.

Simone Collins: Yeah, no, my, my coming into this with only having seen references to the AFD and headlines would, would be, I mean, I'm, I'm assuming it's not accurate because.

It would be crazy if this were the case, but they're basically [00:02:00] saying that the AFD is, you know, the small square mustache people that they're just that. So

Malcolm Collins: the person who runs the AFD is Alice Wheatle is a 46 year old lesbian. She, is in a same sex relationship with a Sri Lankan. They have two sons together.

Simone Collins: She,

Malcolm Collins: okay, so she is in a interracial gay relationship with two kids. She has a doctorate in economics, is fluent in Mandarin, and formerly worked for Goldman Sachs and the Bank of China. She sounds super cool. She sounds like someone I want to be friends with. I like that. Right?

Simone Collins: Doesn't she?

Malcolm Collins: And she splits her time for this ultra German nationalist.

between living in Berlin and Switzerland. But she is known for increasingly radical positions, such deportations, in terms like re [00:03:00] migration which you kind of need in Germany at this point, if you want there to be any hope for a future of a German state. But we'll get to that later. But by this what I mean is if you look at Current immigrant birth rates versus native German birth rates and current immigrant in going rates, if you plan on there being a Germany and you can look at the rate at which they, they integrate into German society, right?

Yeah, based on, you know, different countries. There will not be anything like what we think of as Germany today was German values. And I'm not talking about Western values. I'm talking about like anything other than like, really Sharia law.

What would happen to a gay couple in Gaza?

Executed according to Islamic law. Islam doesn't endorse gays. Islam doesn't endorse homosexuality. Just like Canada doesn't endorse a lot of things. So would you like to see Sharia law in Canada replace Canadian law? At some point, it will. You know, Because we are, we have families, we are making babies, you're not your population is going down the slum, right?

And by 2060, according to [00:04:00] Pew Research Institute, your research, by 2060, Muslims will be the biggest religious group the world over. What are you going to do then? Are you going to oppose Sharia even then? One day we can have a Muslim majority nation here in Canada.

Right In your face!

Malcolm Collins: Like, like we're not like, if you are a lesbian, you should be afraid of this.

For example. Yeah, she

Simone Collins: seems like the kind of person. Who would be uniquely interested in an intervention. I mean, when I read the book, Pray, for example, by Ayaan Hirsi Ali, she talks about the extent to which many, especially vulnerable people, old people, women, young girls, are victimized by primarily Muslim migrants in Europe,

Malcolm Collins: I'm making is that anybody who runs the math knows in 50 to 100 years, Germany doesn't exist anymore in any set of values that they claim to be doing on this, all this on the behalf of won't exist in the future.

And, and you can just run the [00:05:00] math. Like it's that simple. They just don't care. They care more about looking like the good guys right now than the longterm. But so, okay, you get an idea of who she is. So what does the party stand for before we go further into this particular election cycle?

Simone Collins: Yes,

Malcolm Collins: they are anti immigrant.

The party advocates for negative immigration and removing the constitutional right of foreigners to seek asylum. I don't think they're like removing their constitutional right to constitute on our country.

Simone Collins: Well, but that's, that's kind of what happened, right? I mean, it's this one point. with the Syrian war, you had Angela Merkel saying, yes, if you are a refugee, you can basically come here.

So yeah, I mean, like they really do have to reverse something that was a very foundational policy for a long time that completely impermanently changed. But I love

Malcolm Collins: the way the AI words it, their constitutional right to seek asylum. That's like me saying the government took away my constitutional right to demand sex for my wife.

It's like, well, that constitutional right removed rights from other people. So you see, [00:06:00] it's a problem. So, what else, what were there other policies here? They, they were anti Islam. The AFD states, Islam does not belong to Germany. Not, not does not belong in Germany, but does not belong to Germany and seeks to restrict its influence.

They're anti caliphate. They're

Simone Collins: not like anti religious freedom. Okay.

Malcolm Collins: They're they have your skepticism. They they oppose many EU policies as they should. When we see that the EU is basically like USAID of Europe climate change denial. They deny human cause global warming. Not going to speak on that because that could get the video restricted.

And they have a pro Russia stance. They have criticized sanctions against Russia and Germany's support for the Ukraine. So, very much sort of mainstream MAGA like party. Yeah, well, no wonder

Simone Collins: then, JD Vance was speaking with them. Elon Musk has spoken with them. That makes So much sense.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. And so I was trying to like, look up because they [00:07:00] were like, Oh no, they actually are like Nazis.

They actually are like anti Semitic when I, when I was trying to, and I was like, you know what? I'm going to bet that they support Israel despite being called Nazis and that all of these German leftist parties right now are anti Israel. Can I just check? Yeah. But there has been a racist split within the party.

Historically the party was sort of uniformly pro Israel. And now as proof of their Nazism, quote unquote, some members like co chair Tina Tripula have criticized Germany's weapon exports to Israel and called for de escalation. While other members of the party disagreed with this stance and called it quote, left wing pacifist nonsense.

This sounds like. This sounds like this party knows how to f**k.

Simone Collins: Oh, these are the ones that have the good parties.

Malcolm Collins: Right, right, right. So, so again, I'm trying to find like, what is all this horrible stuff they're doing, right? They must be doing something horrible. So in November 2023, a secret meeting took place near Potsdam, Germany, involving [00:08:00] members of the AFD party and other far right groups.

This meeting has since become a major political scandal in Germany. The details include, okay, so there is this. Apparently some, they call them neo Nazi activists, whatever that means. And members of the Identitarian movement and some even centrist people. Okay, it just sounds like anyone who wanted to come could come.

Very similar to like some events we've been at. Okay. Purpose, the meeting's primary focus was on a quote unquote master plan for mass deportations. They termed re migration. Okay, mass deportations are necessary if Germany is to survive right now. Anyone who runs the mass knows that targets the plan aimed to deport not only foreigners and asylum seekers, but also quote unquote, non assimilated German citizens with migrant backgrounds.

That seems, yeah. If

Simone Collins: you don't want to play it by Germany's games, get out of Germany.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah, if you're, if you're going to be, for example, if you're going to treat women as property, if you're going to not give your daughters a choice in who they marry, if you're going to, because once you get an enclaves, it's big enough to do [00:09:00] that.

It doesn't matter what the country's rules are. Right.

Simone Collins: Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: If you're going to threaten your kids lives, if they're gay, you know, if you're going to like, yeah, it undermines,

Simone Collins: it undermines the sovereignty of whatever state in which this is happening. If people will just blatantly. Disregard your own freedoms, protected freedoms and laws, then yeah, you should like either the country needs to get rid of those people fast.

Or it has to admit the fact that they're going to lose their sovereignty, period.

Malcolm Collins: And so how are, is this party that, that won as you saw in this last cycle how are they going to be kept out of power? All right. Okay. So what Germans have done and keep in mind, 85 percent of people voted in this last election cycle, which was the highest number since I think the, the like reconstitution of Germany after yeah, that's two sides combined.

Simone Collins: Isn't it normally for a nation or like, [00:10:00] if we're lucky, 50%, maybe more like 40.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah, well, in Germany, I don't remember, but it's, it's, it's,

Simone Collins: it

Malcolm Collins: was the highest since Germany's reunification in 1990.

Simone Collins: Wow, yeah, so in the 2024 U. S. presidential election, approximately 63. 9 percent of voting eligible people voted. So, this is like, way, way higher. This is, this is meaningful. That's huge.

Malcolm Collins: So how are they being kept out of power? Germans created something they call the firewall. And we're going to go through all of the political parties that play here, how they lost power. But basically, The leftists got the mainstream conservative party, the CDU, to agree to never form a coalition with the ADU and to not count their votes in like basically not allow them to vote on things.

Just freeze them out. Just

Simone Collins: yes, they have not doesn't matter how many votes they got. It doesn't matter what citizens of Germany say. [00:11:00] I mean, no,

Malcolm Collins: it doesn't. This is a literal like to to an American. Germany looks like a state that has been captured by a group of. They have placed mainstream party members with reasonable, I'd even say the most reasonable opinion on things under constant surveillance by the state.

They have made ideas illegal. They have made families like ours illegal in the interest of German genetic purity because we use genetics. Did you know that it's, it's also illegal to insult someone in Germany? Yes, they, they have made it illegal to insult themselves. Now keep in mind, they insult this other party.

No, like

Simone Collins: literally people have been arrested. There's actually been a string of arrests in Germany.

Malcolm Collins: But

Simone Collins: they're

Malcolm Collins: an insult to this party. Because they do it all the time in the stuff I'm reading. So clearly I have a

Simone Collins: problem. Yeah, no, but like literally even if you repost a political cartoon, for example, that's considered insulting.

One example being, for example migrants, oh sorry, I'm sorry. [00:12:00] One example being a political cartoon with an illustration of an electrical plant saying jungle gym for migrants that someone I think just reposted and they were arrested for that. I think the fine for your 1st insult, because I think the, the, the situation escalates depending on how many times you've done.

This is 5000 euros, which is a lot of money and that it's a, it can, it can be higher depending on various circumstances. And it is not considered. Any less big to insult someone online. In fact, it's considered even worse because they've

Malcolm Collins: taken power. The citizens don't want them in power anymore.

They have frozen out the second largest party in the country. They've put them under surveillance and they have yet to understand that they are literally playing the Nazi playbook right here. They march in the street against the Jews in Israel right now. Well, I've seen leftist German marches on this.

They, [00:13:00] you know, river to the sea, talk about murdering the Jews. They don't see that they're the bad guys. I love that. They still call the pro Jewish guys, the Nazis. The guys who didn't forcibly take power in a coup, but what they do is they form these coalition governments and I'll put on screen here the ways that they might come together.

So the middle left and the middle right might come together to form a coalition or you might be able to get a near coalition of the middle right and the greens which are a far left group. But yeah, all right. So let's go over the various parties right now. So the, the, the mid right. Okay. And the last election cycle, they won 24 percent and this one they run 28.

5 percent to 29%. They grew, but like not as much as the AFD. But that's a lot given how much the AFD grew. Christian democratic union or the Christian social union. Now, Their key issues are, and this is the group that despite being the key group in [00:14:00] power refuses to allow the AFD to vote or partner with them, economic revitalization through tax cuts and deregulation, stricter immigration practices, maintaining the debt break, exploring nuclear options, strengthening NATO and supporting Ukraine.

What, why this is like the most cucked rhinos of,

Simone Collins: we were, it's like, let's give away everything and, and put German citizens last. I didn't hear anything about increasing the quality of life for Germans. No,

Malcolm Collins: they, they want stricter immigration policies. They want like this party claims to want that stuff, but they won't work with the other guys who want this stuff because they're too spicy.

These guys are very much like. Spark. They are, we went to this con, I went to this conference in the uk where they basically was crazy because in the crowd, you know, you have people like me to where they could have had me talk about Tism. Now they had Steve Shaw who like, no one is, I like Steve Shaw, but he's like, doesn't have the audience we have he doesn't have the prominence we have but he is way less [00:15:00] spicy and basically a lefty.

They'd have like Curtis Jarvin in the audience. And they put on some like nobody on stage who I'd never heard of. They had people on stage like hand wringing about trump, but this was to be like a pan european like conservative conference but the european conservative power players are so in the last generation That they can't see that things have changed and that they get edified by working with groups like the afd As we saw jd vance do when he went to munich the carpet bombing of munich when he went through and carpet bombed them with truth bombs, It's a recent speech he gave.

We didn't get a chance to go over it because I was at this conference, so I wasn't able to, you know, stay up to date with our videos. That's why they were all evergreen content recently. But anyway, the carpet bombing in Munich he went and he talked with the AFD and none of the other parties because he, the US is trying to normalize this.

Now, let's talk about the AFD. I mentioned them. They went from 10 percent in the last election cycle to 20 point five percent in this election cycle. So, you know, more than doubled. And then you have the, I love their anti [00:16:00] immigration closer ties with Russia opposing military aid to Ukraine, alternate economic approaches, including sanctions on Russia, lifting sanctions on Russia.

So basically just the MAGA, the way that MAGA is different from like old crunchy neocons and stuff like that. The social democratic party, the SPD, this party went from 26 percent to 15%. Completely crashed. This is the one that used to have that huge public support. They wanted targeting public investment and social spending, more moderate stamps on immigration were forming the debt break and continued support for Ukraine.

Then you have the green party. This is 12. to 13 percent in this cycle, 14. 7 percent in the last cycle. So just lost a little bit of support. Climate action and renewable energy expansion, reform, reforming the debt break for future investments, basically taking off the spending money without, without limit.

That's what these guys all want. Rejecting nuclear energy and supporting Ukraine. Then you have the free democratic [00:17:00] party, the FDP which. Is now at 4 percent so they don't get any seats. They used to be at 11. 7%. If you're below 5 percent you don't get any seats. Wow. They want, they want economic liberalization, stricter immigration policies and maintaining the debt break.

They're basically libertarians. It looks like. And then you have the left party which was at less than 5 percent in the last cycle and 19. 9 percent in Berlin this cycle. So nearly double from the last election and they're just social welfare nonsense.

I'd also note that the AFD outperformed among younger demographics which is obviously really terrifying to the existing power structure but I think there isn't much they could do. They have to basically pull off something that's impossible within German politics right now to gain power. So we'll talk a bit more about the firewall and where it's breaking, but any thoughts you had.

Simone Collins: I'm so glad this happened because I thought it was impossible. I thought that this was just a nation in [00:18:00] inevitable decline. And I think. That you did too. You were basically like, Germany has done it. Well, right now

Malcolm Collins: it's still in inevitable decline unless the center right party breaks, it breaks a firewall.

And I think Trump could do that. Really? Yes. If Trump and Vance basically call out Germany for what it's become, which is a non democratic fascist state. They, they cannot ignore the will of the people. They can't just. call off as J. D. Vincent, you can't just call off elections when you lose. And that's what the left and the bureaucratic class in Europe, the bureaucratic oligarchs in Europe have taken to doing.

And that I think saying you are not a friendly country right now, you are a failed democracy right now, and we can't normalize relations with Germany. Until Germany respects the will of the voters. So let's talk about how the firewall works. Exclusion from coalitions. Other parties have pledged not to form coalitions with the effectively shutting [00:19:00] them out of government formation.

Legislative isolation. Major parties avoid collaborating with the AFD on passing legislation. Institutional security. The AFD is under surveillance by German's domestic intelligence for alleged right wing extremism.

It's

Simone Collins: interesting how this is such an extreme case of using name calling to just completely disenfranchise an entire group and completely false name calling as far as I'm aware. I've sometimes. Heard it de escalated their description or association with the baddies de escalated to has some loose ties with known baddies.

But again, I don't even know how true that is because every time someone is called that online, they aren't, they're just. In some other ways and

Malcolm Collins: at the state, I tried to look to find like genuinely bad things they had done and I [00:20:00] couldn't find anything. It'll be things like saying Muslims are not or like Islam is not German, right?

For example, or German culture or some Muslims do not appear to be integrating into our society or you know, Great cases are disproportionately Muslim right now or like these are all just like a reasonable and obvious truth that go against the the grain to say, so you want to look at the fight that they've had was this because I actually met somebody at this conference who was talking to me fan of the show who's under surveillance by the government.

And he's like a leader of one of these parties and he's like, look, I've even gone to the government and been like, hey. Because they have him on the list that requires like constant monitoring to see if he's a terrorist. And they go, can't you just like, do the research on me, actually investigate me to find out if I actually am a terrorist.

And I'm like, just do it already. Yeah. And they're like, no, we can't. We're, we're stretched too thin, which basically allows them to put anyone they want to on this list, which automatically overstretches the list. Instead of looking at the actual terrorists, like [00:21:00] the, the one who drove a van into people at Christmas and killed six people, like they don't care about this.

Okay. So the classification as a, The suspected case in 2021, the BFB classified the AFD as a suspected case of extremism. This designation allows the agency to monitor the party's activities more closely. Legal basis, a German court ruled in May 2024 that this surveillance is lawful, rejecting the appeal of the AFD.

The court found quote unquote sufficient evidence to justify classifying the party as a potential threat to democracy. Scope of the surveillance, this classification enables the BFB to use intelligence methods such as wiretaps. Recruiting informants and monitoring suspicious activities of party branches.

Reasons for the surveillance. The court cited evidence that the AFD may pursue goals that contradict human dignity in certain groups. So, so, wha I love this ongoing process that the BFE continues to gather information and prepare reports of the [00:22:00] AFDs activities.

This surveillance is part of Germany's effort to protect its democratic constitution from extremist threats. That is wild. Now here is where we get a little bit of potential break in this, okay?

Simone Collins: Okay. January 29th.

Malcolm Collins: Malcolm Eddie is dire di mps from the far right alternative for Germany, the A FD.

Clustered around 46 year old party leader Alice Weedle in Parliament taking selfies. Weedle, dressed in a white roll neck and navy blazer, gave a reticent but pleased looking smile at the camera. Moments earlier, AFD had made history. For the first time since entering the federal parliament in 2017, its votes had influenced national policy.

The motion to restrict immigration was non binding. What mattered was that the entire center right opposition, the CDU, which brought it forward, and the Libertarian Free Democratic Party, FDP, who supported it, [00:23:00] relied on additional AFD votes to pass it. So they basically used AFD votes to pass a non binding resolution.

In so doing, CDU leader Frederick Meurs, who's the next guy to be prime minister, abolished a post war consensus among mainstream parties to ostracize the extreme and far right. They are not that extreme. probably to the left of Trump. Merz was avoiding eye contact of the ruling Social Democratic Party, S.

D. P., who was furious the AFD was over the moon, standing on chairs, embracing each other. Stung by criticism that they were making common cause with the far right, a dozen CDU MPs refused to back their party leader a second time.

He still won though. Weedle was incensed. Merz does not have what it takes to be Chancellor, she told reporters. The Conservatives aren't united. Last month, the collaboration at the federal level, it didn't seem to affect CDU standing in the polls, suggesting not all Germans are as affronted by the inclusion of the AFD in decision making as the Berlin [00:24:00] political elite.

And that is what it is. This is, you can see, this is just the elite because after this. They still had that huge one. Here I would note what I actually love is the way that the leader of the AFD dresses the, you know, what is it? Turtleneck with the blazer reminds me of the way that far leftist lesbian dresses, Ellen DeGeneres was born in Germany and became a MAGA mirror world.

Simone Collins: Ellen

Malcolm Collins: DeGeneres of that. Yeah. Mirror world. Ellen DeGeneres. It really is like a sliders episode or something where you went through a different world.

Is that f*****g Ellen DeGeneres running MAGA in this country?

Simone Collins: Oh boy. She seems super awesome. I. Not Ellen DeGeneres, you mean this lady. This lady,

yeah. Ellen

DeGeneres

is the worst!

The worst! She's the worst person in the world. Huge skank. Terrible.

Simone Collins: What I don't understand is how anyone would become a leader within [00:25:00] the AFD or try when it has been so clearly shadow banned, or not even shadow banned, just banned from the public discourse.

Malcolm Collins: A few things. One, and I want to remember here to put the scene of the Muslim who's yelling about what they're going to do when they take power in Canada in earlier in this episode. Okay, yikes. We had an episode around it, remember? He's like, you know, when we're

Simone Collins: Oh, him! Yeah, no, the guy who's just very matter of factly.

Yes! Oh, gosh, yes. Yes,

Malcolm Collins: so, the You can't help but like the guy. Yeah, right. Okay, so, the I think that one, keep in mind, like Vance met with them and not the other parties, just completely ignoring the firewall. The only way Germany gets any sort of sanity again is breaking the firewall. And, and until they do that, they are a country that is in rebellion against its people.

It is a Berlin elite that is in rebellion against its people while in the process of systemically eliminating them. I think it was something like in the Last 10 years, like the number of immigrants had [00:26:00] more than doubled.

So as of 2022, 24. 3 percent of Germany's population had a history of immigration. This includes people who have immigrated to Germany since 1950, who were the direct descendant of immigrants. So around one in four German citizens is non German. and if you look at first generation immigrants, you're looking at, , 17.

3%, so over one in six.

Like that is when you look at the differential birth rates in the United States, things like the great replacement theory, I just don't buy at all.

Like, you know, Oh no, not the trad cast Hispanics. They'll never be. Meanwhile over half of Hispanic males voted for Trump in the last election cycle. The left was like, oh, we maybe made a mistake with that. But this is very different. This is a group that is anti Like, I, I am able to be more moderate on my views towards immigrants because I live in the [00:27:00] United States.

Simone Collins: If

Malcolm Collins: I lived in Germany or the UK I would not be able to be as moderated on my views about immigration where I would need to say, one, we can't Because in these countries, they can't they can't treat all immigrants as if they are exactly the same when a disproportionate amount of the terrorism, when a disproportionate amount of attacks, even democratically on German values through creating these sort of Sharia enclaves and stuff like that.

Are coming from one specific cultural background and often just one country. I was talking to one of my friends in the UK really cool Indian conservative lady. She's like, you know, it's crazy. Like all of this, it's not coming from even just one religion. It's like, it's one sub region of Pakistan.

And if you were just able to say this one sub region of Pakistan, you'd, you'd end like 95 percent of the cases of the really horrifying, whether it's the [00:28:00] grooming gangs or whether it's the random attacks or whether it's the but they can't talk like that. Like everyone must be exactly the same.

Except for Germans who and another thing that AFD has gotten in trouble for is they're like historical revisionism. They have pride in their country. They have pride in its history. They're like, we need to stop doing this. I love they call them anti semitic despite how pro israel they are because they want to stop Being as effasive with the holocaust remembrance day, which is actually important Like if you want to have pride in your people germany has done enough I think by most people's standards in terms of the whole whipping themselves over the Holocaust.

I would even guess to most Jews today, like even in Israel, when I like talk with like extremist Jews, I'm like like, like laughing, well, you know, you could just ship all the people from Gaza into Germany and they'll like get this solemn look on their face because they know Germany would take them and they're like, no, we really shouldn't like that would kill Germany and they take it and you know, we need to like cut them some, like, so like [00:29:00] even the like pro.

Jewish Jews I know are like, Hey, don't Jeremy, you've done enough. Like, stop it. Stop, stop whipping yourself. Pull the knife out. Stop stabbing yourself. This is getting gruesome at this point. Okay. You are actually replacing your own people at this point. The show, the hint, and I mean, that's an offensive thing to say, but like, what do you think, Simone?

If you look at the, like the numbers, they are replacing their own people. Right? Like am I. No,

Simone Collins: no. It's just birth rates.

Malcolm Collins: Like, what are you going to do? Well, I mean, there's a lot of things. I love it. I was looking at this really funny because I was on air at British Tonight. I did the, like, big talk show that night when I was in the UK.

And one of the stats I was looking at was the difference between native born british and muslim fertility rates. And it was actually fact checkers. So it was channel four news and they're like, no muslims won't replace native british people. You see native british people may have a fertility rate of 1.

8 and muslims have a fertility rate of [00:30:00] three. But by 2030 native british people will have a fertility rate of 1. 8 and muslims will have a fertility rate of like 2. 3 or something. Now, hold on. This was done in 2014. Okay. Just 20, 24. Okay. So just 10 years later.

Simone Collins: Mm-hmm . Mm-hmm .

Malcolm Collins: They British people weren't at 1.8 year.

Still, they projected 1.8 for 2030. Isn't, aren't they? One,

Simone Collins: one point. Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: Oh Lord. By the way, the, the latest I could find on the Muslim fertility rate in the uk it is now at. 2. 83. So it felt like 1 percent British one is, is, is tanking. And fundamentally, I just think when I talk to progressives on this, I'm like so you agree, to, to, progressives, you agree that Muslims are different culturally. They're, they're better culturally than us Europeans, right? They're better. But they, they have different practices. They have different practices around marriage.

They have different practices around how they relate to things like sexuality and [00:31:00] gender. And those differences are what make them unique and beautiful. And that it is not your plan. To erase their cultural heritage, right? We can agree on this. Okay. It's not your plan. Okay. Okay. So we both agree. Your plan isn't to erase their cultural heritage.

What happens to the native population if you are importing these people in really high numbers and we don't plan to erase their culture? Like, what's the logical outcome of this if their fertility rates are dramatically higher?

I don't, like, understand, it's like, okay, well then maybe they become a

Simone Collins: matter of not caring, for the most part, right?

Malcolm Collins: Well, right, and there's like, well, okay, the British will become a minority in Britain or, or, or in Germany or whatever, right, you know? And then they're like, but, when the, the Muslims are the majority, they will treat us with the [00:32:00] magnanimity that we have treated them.

What would happen to a gay couple in Gaza?

Executed according to Islamic law. Islam doesn't endorse gays. Islam doesn't endorse homosexuality. Just like Canada doesn't endorse a lot of things. So would you like to see Sharia law in Canada replace Canadian law? At some point, it will. You know, Because we are, we have families, we are making babies, you're not

Malcolm Collins: And I was like, what are you, look at Muslim majority countries, like we, we have an eye, we can see the countries where these people came from, how they treated local religious minority populations. They did not treat them well, and this hasn't been the case of Islams or at all history, this isn't a Muslim thing intrinsically, Muslims used to be of all the religions, like nicest to the minority population in their countries.

So I'm not attacking Islam in saying this, I'm saying this modern iteration of Islam that you are bringing into your country, it acts this way. Okay? Not all Islam, but the specific version of it that you are growing [00:33:00] within your country. And when you deconvert somebody from one of these groups, when you do acculturate them, they stop having kids at the same rate.

So the more extreme version is the one that's going to replace things, like I guess this is like the type of thing that would be called like an extremist, but I feel like I'm just walking people through logic that we all agree on. They just don't do the second step. They're like, okay, Islam is a unique culture with unique views on things like marriage same sex relations the way a religion should relate to its government, the way minority populations should be treated within a state.

And we can look and see how the people are acting and what they're voting for in their own countries. So they know what's going to happen, right? Like, I feel like this isn't, like, extreme, right? Like, this is, I guess it's extreme because then it's the, the, then so what? Well, then so what? We need to heavily restrict immigration.

There's, yeah, but there's no, no,

Simone Collins: no, because the, the focus. Is [00:34:00] on now and on immediate suffering. There just is no long term focus. And I think when I go back to my mindset of a very progressive person, it's just take care of everyone right now. Stop their suffering dot, dot, dot. Everything's going to be great.

It's going to be great. You know, we'll bring over the migrants who are suffering where they are now, and we will take good care of them and they will. And be so grateful and live thriving lives and be happy and all of us will do great. And by the way, we need help with our population right now anyway, et cetera, et cetera, there is no thought of.

Irrevocable damage. It really reminds me like the modern

Malcolm Collins: progressives, I see why they get along so well with the neocons because their view towards immigrants is very similar to the neocons view towards nation building, which is like, oh, we'll go into Afghanistan and Iraq and we will give them democracy.

And they [00:35:00] will be so grateful about all that. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right. They are going to just love us and treat us amazingly and just, and then other people were like, bro, it's a completely different culture. Like this extremist Islamic culture is not, they don't want to be friends with you.

And the problem is, is that other than us going there and murdering people, they're shipping them over here and having them murder people at home, you know? Like, it's wild! And then, you

I guess with the neocons, like, we sort of got to a point where, do they understand now that you can't do that? Like, different cultures are different? I guess they just became progressives. I mean, we saw Dick Cheney like you know, doing campaigning with, with Kamala Harris and stuff. One of the things that I heard said recently that really stuck with me maybe Adam Gold was watching somebody was saying this, there's something along these lines where they were just saying In history.

Oh, I remember who it was. Yeah, this was the guy who runs Sargon of Akkad had a piece saying this. He's like, look, everybody knows now, like, because we can see the [00:36:00] tide turning, whether it's this election cycle or what's going on in the United States that the far left message is Over at this point, like they don't have the power to continue long term, right?

And that they don't have the the birth rate numbers. They're losing political power They really only still control like the media and the heads of companies and those are being disintermediated by ai and new media. So like who knows what happens from there? Anyway, so we can look at all of this By the way, if people want to hire us for starting a DEI remediation firm that we're going to be seeing if we can work with Heritage on we got deiremediation.

com so anyway they, they look at, you can look at all this being in retreat, and we can sort of get a picture of how this is all going to be recorded in history books now, and the far wokest do not realize how crazy they're going to look in the eyes of history. Like, they think they're on the right side of history but they look like actual crazy people.

Speaker: [00:37:00] No, no, listen to me. I know it sounds crazy, but i'm not insane. I've come back to warn you

Speaker 2: Uh huh of

Speaker: what in my time a genocide is happening Who's responsible?

J. K. Rowling! Uh look! I have proof! What

Speaker 2: am I looking at here?

Speaker: A tweet!

Speaker 2: It says she doesn't like being called menstruator? I don't understand.

Speaker: Ha! Shh! You can't talk like that! Gay teenagers are going to kill themselves!

They're killing themselves! They're killing themselves! In 2024, J. K. Rowling becomes genocidal and makes transgender children kill themselves with her Twitter account!

Speaker 2: Transgender children?

Speaker 3: Like people will ever make kids trans.

Speaker: Not if we don't do something about it!

There's an entire movement of people, they're trying to stop 10 year olds from going on puberty blockers so they can have easier sex changes when they're older. Can't you see it's genocide?

Speaker 3: Wait, you think [00:38:00] not sterilizing children is genocidal?

Speaker 2: Come on, let, guys, we're just dunking on a mentally ill guy at this point.

Malcolm Collins: Like Trump was doing a speech recently where he got in a fight with the , governor of Maine. And, and he scolded her. Because he's not going to give Maine federal dollars because she is keeping trans people in sports in her states, right? Like, like, trans women beating up women in her state.

And Trump said in his speech, like, don't tell them, don't tell them, like, let her keep doing this until the next election cycle. We need this guys. He goes, keep it in this room. The left doesn't know that nobody likes this because this is a Yeah, this is a 90 10 issue because I don't know who this 10 percent is good

Simone Collins: point.

I, I just, there's, there's such different filters through which the polarized sides on each side view reality that they're now irreconcilable and irreconcilable. It's interesting how in [00:39:00] the past, there seemed to be more of a shared understanding of reality. There may be. A certain amount of out of touchness between people of different communities, but broadly, people kind of understood things in a similar way at least within a single culture, but that's not the case anymore.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah, with the ADF, something interesting we're seeing, and I've pointed this out in the United States, is the main stream far right is becoming very friendly to gays. You see this with the AFD, you see this with, you know, Scott Pressel I've mentioned in the U. S., you see this with the people who are anti gay on the right, like turning against Trump, we have a video against this and this has been really, really interesting, but one thing that makes it more interesting in Germany is that the AFD is anti gay.

Gay marriage, actively anti gay marriage. But I think what we have seen is a lot of normal gays being like, Hey, if this is what winning gay [00:40:00] marriage brought us, I prefer just like a general acceptance than, than this, you know, being able to lead your parties, but maybe not get married. Like, and I, I, I remember, you know, talking to like one gay conservative and they were like, the moment we went too far.

was the cake. And if you guys don't remember the cake thing, it was a cake shop was sued because they had a religious people running it who didn't want to do a gay wedding cake. And they sued the shop for discrimination. And I totally like, I, I agree with that. That was when the movement jumped the shark.

Well,

Simone Collins: that's, that's when consent. And it was about imposing consent in a way that imposing their values

Malcolm Collins: on somebody else. Yeah, it

Simone Collins: curtailed someone else's private life. And, and business. In a way that revoked their consent. And that's But the point

Malcolm Collins: I'm making is being anti gay is not cool in conservative circles right now.

And I think it's important to keep reminding people of this. You [00:41:00] lose your AFDs if you go anti gay. You lose your Scott Presslers if you go anti gay. Who's anti gay? Who is anti gay now? It's so funny when I was at that ARC conference, you know, for like the old school conservatives, it's these old, sad conservatives, they're anti I remember one I was talking about was like, well, there's not even real conservatives here.

He's like, you know, some people here don't want to ban gay marriage and like keep gays out of our events. Wow. They're still alive, huh? He wasn't just anti gay, he also was anti Trump and was mad that USAID was being shut down. What a delusional person! This is insane. He was from Eastern Europe, so he might have been on the dole or something from USAID or one of these things.

Maybe. So just like a classic, slimy, old But that's a good,

Simone Collins: you know, a lot of people claim to have unpopular opinions, and they just don't, you know? That's

Malcolm Collins: But this opinion wasn't unpopular at this event. This [00:42:00] event was just like the faction of the conservative party that we should consider the enemy of Trumpism, of the AFD and that still control factions of things like the center right party in Germany, where they tried to use conservative values but not have any improper ideas.

But if they allow the left to set the stage of what improper ideas are, if they allow the left to, like, treat, like, terrorist mainstream conservative ideas, like, hey, we need to be selective with immigration in this country, these people really don't like us. How do you know they don't like us? Well, maybe the constant terror attacks.

Simone Collins: I

Malcolm Collins: mean They do keep

Simone Collins: murdering us. I bet though, if we were talking with someone from that side, they'd be like, well, it was because we'd mistreated this person so terribly. They've faced so much hate and discrimination when entering our country. They deserve better. We haven't done well enough. It's like they say they want to

Malcolm Collins: kill you before they go to your country.

You can go to their countries. [00:43:00] Okay. Anyway. Love you to death, Simone. Any final thoughts?

Simone Collins: Just that I love you. You're special and pretty.

Malcolm Collins: So we've got to tell our followers about the Krampus assisted unaliving that Oh my God.

Simone Collins: Right. Well, for context, we decided to do Krampus as a Christmas tradition starting this year. So Malcolm got a very expensive Krampus costume, like a very realistic, terrifying mask of a horned goat man. He even got hooves for his legs.

And then he borrows my giant black wool cloak which is somewhere around here. Oh, and his hands. His prosthetic hands and he, he scared the children, except for our son, Torsten. We actually have video footage of this. Torsten is just staring out the window while Malcolm's out there in a Krampus costume.

And he's like, look, a monster. And everyone else is, well, I think our youngest daughter thought it was just Malcolm because it sounded exactly like Malcolm going [00:44:00] rawr and Octavian. Didn't really get it until Krampus somehow broke into our house and searched through their room briefly or walked to the room looking for children to, you know, beat and throw into a burlap sack and take away.

And now he sort of built Krampus into his lore of the world, meaning he occasionally talks with Torsten about how he's going to become a Krampus hunter. You know, how like in, in vampire worlds, there, there's a. Calling a vampire hunter. And in, in his world, he, there are Krampus hunters. So he's like, well, I'm going to be a Krampus hunter.

Also at night I haven't

Malcolm Collins: heard the Krampus hunter thing yet.

Simone Collins: Oh, yeah, that's the thing. That's the thing he's talked about at night. He talks about locking up because he wants to make sure Krampus is not able to get inside. Well, yesterday when Malcolm was taking care of the kids, Malcolm was not giving Octavian a screen he was requesting because we only have very limited times for [00:45:00] a screen.

And Octavian, what did he say?

Malcolm Collins: He said, Okay, so he said something along the lines of like I'm sad and I am angry and I am going to unlock all of the doors tonight so Krampus can get me and take me and I'll be dead.

Simone Collins: Amazing. The new death by cop. Death by Krampus. So I gave him a lot of shame for that all night. I was like, Octavian, why would you, why would you say that? Krampus could probably tell you said that. Now Krampus is going to come for you. And he got real scared. So scared that he managed to bolt a whole new set of doors in our house, making it very difficult for Malcolm to read them bedtime stories at night to go through a different set of doors because we sort of set up our house like a fortress.

Anyway fun times, huh?

Speaker 5: [00:46:00] Oh,

in the land of sausages and beer, a tale of politics you'll hear. Bureaucrats with cunning grace, building coalitions all over the place. Parties unpopular hand in hand, joined to thwart the people's demand. A firewall built with secret schemes to keep the AFD out. Out of their dreams, deep state show in Germany, the plot did grow.

Bureaucrats with hefty plans, keeping the power's hands.

Thought their voice is [00:47:00] loud, but bureaucrats hid behind a cloud with meetings held behind closed doors. Together, new report, the AFD left out in the cold, while coalitions took a hold. The people watched in disbelief, as bureaucrats spun their myths. Deep state coup, oh what a show In Germany the plot did grow And swift crafty plans Keeping the powers hands

Militias took a hold The people watched in disbelief As bureaucrats [00:48:00] spun their mischief Deep state cooool show. In Germany, the plot did glow.

Deep plans were from voters hands. So

in this tailgate, that's ruled from out of sight. The voters will, they did restrain, leaving many to question the game.

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