Only about six in ten livres had previously expressed any interest at all in voting for the uca independence party. Yet we're still routinely told that this was essentially a sort of a populis e project. We've just completely lost sight of the 30 or forty years of research that we a showing why brits were so uro sceptic, and why they felt that the european project hadn't gone in the way that they were initially told that it was going to go. This has been wrapped up into a broader problem for liberals,. which i'll leave on the table and we can reflect on, which is this tendency to absolutely catastrophize everything.