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135: The Persuaders (w/Anand Giridharadas)

Conspirituality

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Are You Taking Care of the Other Person's Emotions?

I think there's a certain amount of mourning that you have to just go through in order to reckon with the arc of that story. And it also means you have to come to grips with the fantasy you might have around having a nourishing conversation with someone against whom you're so opposed. I know for myself, I carry acertain amount of baggage around that as well because getting through to someone carries some kind of symbolic meaning. It goes back to being surrounded by people who had really hateful and bigoted beliefs when I was growing up.

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