Speaker 1
But it's a much more connecting experience than if you engage the part
Speaker 2
instead of just asking to do his own job and do his own self revolation in erself, right? Right?
Speaker 1
Yes, yes. Because when the part's coming at you like that, it wants connection, right? It wants some kind of connection. And if we say, oh, focus on that part and how do you feel toward it, or see if it can unblend, oh, you know, it
Speaker 2
makes me think of all the training that i've been in arin situations where i have a judgmental part that says, oh, they're not in self. And i know that judgmental part is just creating distant, but it's almost, it's reflexive. So i'm so grateful that you're sort of illuminating this topic for maybe for didatic proposes. Let me come back to this same topic. You are saying that you can be self led and still speak with emotion. So how can we be self led and still with emotion, and how can that be of some use or benefit for us and our trainings?
Speaker 1
Wel first of all, an think about what you said earlier on a balwich is om. It certainly feels much more alive, doesn't it, rather than this sort of flat aens bont, yes, well, that such an interesting question. You know, i never really thought about it in terms of how it could benefit us in that precise way. But i guess what i would say is, i feel like as we this, as i said earlier, this is a living, breathing model, and it changes and changes and changes, and i feel like we're continuing to refine the ways we teach it to people. I now, titha, when you were saying a minute ago about having parts it or have judgment cause somebody's not himself. I think there are ways in which we imply that as we teach the model, right? There have been ways that that is definitely implied. And and so this is really a way of refining the teaching even more. Thut that is not what we want. Why? What we want, what feels so alive and real to me, as this is this goal of artherapy, to not we don't want to be parts led, right? We want to be self led, which means welcoming, welcoming, welcoming all our parts. Not just in that sort of perfunctory way that we sayt all we are, we need to welcome all our parts, but to really, it feels to me like it's a flow with them, right? Like it feels like this infinity loop that its our goes out to our parts and then comes back to ourselves. And we're connected through this energy flow with them, right? And if i get stuck in believing that i should be in self, it, it excludes and exiles all my humanity from who i am person. So i guess the benefit annabal is really, um, i live a fuller life. I live a richer life. We can share with each other. I
Speaker 1
our joys our sorrows. Yes, exactly. So i think that, i think that would be the benefit for me. That
Speaker 2
is so beautifully said,
Speaker 1
oh, wrata pang, very inarticulate to me.