"We may be stuck in a tiny little like detour right now, where we're doing this whole thing with computers and phones," he says. "I'm just look, it's this is gonna sound crazy, Matt, but whatever, a whole detour where we should have been focusing more on other things ... And maybe we will get back on track and we'll end up in the same place anyways." He adds: "If you think we are actually living on the fervor of trying to figure out what this guy can do then we never figure out anything at all"