John von Neumann is the one who ends up attending the Atomic Energy Commission meetings in a wheelchair when he gets cancer. He's busy helping design atom bombs at Los Alamos and working on the first programmable computer. In between all of that, he comes back to Princeton, Cecil Sand with Morgenstern for a massive session, and then he pops off again. And I think over about 80 months, two years, which is about how long it took me to write my book,.

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