The President and the President on the Wall Issue

The president really wanted to build a wall. You were quoted a few times as saying, well, it doesn't have to be a concrete wall, can be see through or something like that. What the CVP people would tell them is, we want to improve that barrier. And just as importantly, according to them and their experts, we want the people that are contemplating jumping the wall to see us because if they see us, they don't do it.