i think what she says, also in this poem especially, is that we can have these really hard and even searing experiences, and that we can find the answers through living our lives. i'm looking forward to meeting her some day, to finding out, from her perspective, face to face, how did she feel about living through those answers? Although we do have a couple of clues. If you want to say outside the temple, in the way that the temple teaches, please join us for part two of this podcast,.

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