Lily: I was intrigued by the idea that sometimes it's you can't fix it. To be an agent, a non-victim Christian and again what is God going to do in the kingdom with a bunch of victims? We'll be hugging our inner child while he's building worlds. The same thing is true in scripture of Abraham. He tells him to leave his father behind. And we have to love people who are doing damage to us. But this is a problem that people have all the time in counseling. They come in and they don't know what to do with these very painful relationships.

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