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And that's what I did. So, so, so back in that time, right, so back in the 70s, I went when you're both well in a technical analysis. It wasn't accepted in the industry at that time. Ralph, we'll start with you. What was your experience that time. I was in the industry. Yeah, I was
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in New York as an analyst. And I met a young,
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another young analyst, say Johnny Brooks was his name. I was in
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1970. I was around 26, 27 years old. I think Brooks, he was like 25, something like that. And I was just different. And we were both junior analyst at the New York Society of Security Analysts. That's where all the analysts want to get understand years ago.
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Corporate America, when they wanted to talk to Wall Street analysts, they actually came to Wall Street,
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came to that society had a big luncheon and the chairman of the company and the vice chairman and the CEO, CFO, whatever, we'll talk about their company. And the analyst would privately sit there, raise their hand, ask questions, go back to the report with their notes, go back to their company and write the reports on these companies. And Johnny and I were never allowed to go to
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because we were
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They say, they say we were in the back of the bus. Hell, we weren't even on the bus. And the other thing that we saw that Brooks, he and I is that we realized that the
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different analyst group like the chemical analyst and the drug analyst
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and the food analyst would have separate meetings. And they would talk about their industries and all and then one day Johnny and I decided to want to technical analysts have meetings. And I
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think that's the problem
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of, of a whole situation that I am so so proud of because it changed the world of technical analysis, that organization, the market technicians associate was the original name. Now it's called a shot at market technicians will probably talk that that in a few minutes, CMT association that's
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today. And we had technicians together. The first evening then a meeting I don't know if you know this time, we had a guy by the name of Edson Gould was our first. Yeah, and no one at the time ever met him, but they knew his work, three steps in the stumble and